Thursday, June 20, 2013

Curvy Kate Tease Me Bra

So, in my quest for new bras that fit, I decided to give Curvy Kate a second try.  Their basic bra had been close the first time I tried one, and they do offer a couple of sexier/more colorful styles.  In my quest to try a variety, I also had to try out another store, since Bravissimo's selection of Curvy Kate bras was kind of lacking.  This go round I ordered from figleaves, another UK site.  Figleaves has both a US and a UK site (which is kinda nice), and they have a shipping center stateside for returns, so you don't have to pay international shipping for returns.  Also worth noting is the fact that you can order from either site--I strongly recommend ordering from the UK site, especially if you're ordering multiple items--the price difference will more than cover your shipping and foreign transaction fees (A bra that runs $70 on the US site will run around $45 on the UK site, once you convert currencies).
Both figleaves and Bravissimo seem to be pretty good about returns--my Bravissimo return went well, and while I did exchange one of the bras I ordered from figleaves, their returns system is pretty standard as well.


Curvy Kate Tease Me Bra


I tried this one on in a 30H and a 28HH in purple and red respectively.  I thought it was pretty cute, and wasn't disappointed.  While it is a padded bra, the padding isn't insanely thick and it seemed fairly well constructed.  This style apparently runs a bit large in the band--I found the 28HH fit significantly better.

But.... (There's always a but, isn't there?)

One of the complaints I'd seen from other bloggers about this one was that it gave a "cakes on a platter" sort of look.  Most of the photos I'd seen looked fine, and I had chalked that up to the general taste for excessive lift that many large breasted girls seem to have (usually the phrase you hear is, "I don't want my boobs under my chin."  Personally, I'd rather have them under my chin than at my waist, but that's another story).  And then I tried it on--I have worn corsets that didn't serve my breasts up like that.  Cakes on a platter is an accurate description, with minimal hyperbole.  While supported, the girls did not feel at all secure, and I'm fairly sure excessive motion on my part would have launched them into space.  I also found the straps to be uncomfortably far apart (and keep in mind, I prefer wide set straps).  Instead of coming up off my boob, the straps came up across my armpits, which was neither comfortable or secure.


PROS:
--wide size selection (once you pass GG the pickings tend to get slim)
--colorful and sexy
--supportive

CONS:
--expensive (not so bad at 30 GBP, but insane at 70 USD)
--insecure
--overly wide set straps
--bands run large

Monday, June 3, 2013

Jockey's "Revolutionary" New Sizing--Hope or Hoax?

Some of you may have heard about Jockey in the news recently.  If you haven't, here's a decent article detailing their "revolutionary" new approach to bras.  For those of you too lazy to click on the link, I will elaborate.

Jockey looked at how women's bras are sized and said, "This makes no sense.  We can do better."  So, they put up some cash, and did some research and came up with...drumroll please...volumetric sizing.  The way this works is you order one of their fit kits, which comes with 10 plastic boob forms, a measuring tape, instructions, and a lingerie bag.  You then measure for your band as normal (under the breasts, tightly) and find which boob form fits you best.  Whatever the number of that boob form is, that's your cup size.  So, you wind up with sizes like 5-32 and 9-40 and whatnot.  You then have your choice of five--count 'em, five--different bras in the sparkling color palette of white, nude, and black.

Now, at this point, I'd like to refer you over to fellow blogger Charla Welch, who kindly ponied up the $20 and ordered the fit kit.  She has an excellent review of the actual kit, so I'm going to save my time (and money), and look at the sizing system itself.

First off, I'm rather reluctant to trust my boobs to a company known for making men's underwear.  I mean, I think they've made some sports bras, but let's face it, they don't call them jockey shorts because jockeys wear them.  I'm pretty confident that Jockey has my hubby's back, but I have my doubts when it comes to the girls.  That aside, I would like to applaud them for attempting to try something different.  Bra sizing is completely insane, and anyone willing to tackle that challenge earns my respect.  That said, this is a gimmick.

Yeah, you heard me.  A gimmick.

The first--and most obvious--problem here is that Jockey offers absolutely no conversion scale to traditional sizing.  While I understand that the idea is to breakaway from traditional sizing, there is no way that five styles of bra are going to fit all women.  No way.  So, if you order the kit (which does come with a $20 coupon and supposedly is refundable), and find your new size, but none of their bras fit right, you're kind of screwed.  I mean, you know that you're now a 6-30, but what's that translate to in normal sizes?  Sure, you'd love to stick with Jockey, but if the bras don't fit right, they don't fit.  Also, if you're a specialty size normally (i.e. very small or very large), how do you know any of those plastic cups are going to fit you at all?  I mean, seriously, I'm currently trying on H and HH cups (and they're fitting).  I'm pretty sure those cups aren't going to be big enough.

Secondly, Jockey's whole idea with "volumetric sizing" is that women's breasts are shaped differently (which is true), so how can we accurately gauge their size with one horizontal measurement?  This is absolutely correct.  There are about eleventy billion differences in breast shape, size, fullness, width, and all those other factors that make bras nearly impossible to find.  That said, I encourage you to look at this image of several of the fit cups that is on Jockey's website.

Really look.

There is no difference in the shape here.  It's the exact same shape, only scaled up or down.

What the hell, Jockey?

And don't even get me started on the price.  You have to pay to find out what your size in their brand is?  I don't care if you give me credit towards my purchase, that's insulting.  And, frankly, if I'm going to pay $60 for a bra, I want a sexy pretty bra, not an ugly sports bra (admittedly, most of my bras are in the $60 range, but some people have more options).

My next argument is really more of a suspicion.  What if the reason they don't have a conversion chart is because they're using the same cup sizes and just calling them something different?

I'll admit, part of my suspicion here comes from that fellow blogger I pointed you towards.  She noticed that the cup number was the same as the difference between her bust and band measurements.  While this could very well be coincidence, that would be a very convenient (and more logical way of sizing.  However, that would also mean that there's no real difference in how the bras are sized.  You can call a tomato a pear, but it's still a tomato.  And, let's be honest here, they haven't done anything innovative with the band here--the only difference is they're not adding inches like half the fitters/manufacturers do.  If they really have just changed what they're calling the cup sizes, it's not much more than vanity sizing--now if a woman doesn't want to believe she's a DD, she doesn't have to.  She could be a five instead.

I also question exactly how they're managing the grading for these things.  You see, one of the many difficulties in manufacturing bras is the sheer number of different products.  This is a great article that explains the difficulties inherent in bra making, and there's a great section on grading about a third of the way down.  In a nutshell, bra grading is how manufacturers minimize the number of different parts they have to use to make the widest selection of bras.  If you've heard talk of sister sizes (like how the cup is the same size in a 34A, 36B, and 38C), this is exactly what makes that work.  The caveat is that your band size affects your cup size. Have they really managed to just plug the cups into different bands?  I mean, theoretically that could work, but there are so many factors to take into consideration.

Finally, I'd like to point out that they haven't changed anything about band sizing.  Admittedly, the band sizing is less broken than cup sizing, but there are still a few problems--like the fact that bands only come in even sizes.  Or the fact that bands only go down to a 30 (I think if 26 and 28 were widely available, we'd all be amazed at how many women would fit into those bras).

I think Jockey's really bold for trying something new with bra sizing, and, if nothing else, they are carrying the widest selection of sizes of any American manufacturer.  But this isn't enough.  The bra is an insanely complicated garment (seriously, read that article about bra making, it will open your eyes), and there's no way we can boil that many curves down to just a couple of numbers.  Having looked at what it takes to make the damn things, once you take into consideration the sheer number of variables that make up a pair of breasts, as long as we stick with off the shelf bras, we are going to have fitting problems.  Ultimately, I think our solution is going to lie with materials--what we really need is something like Marty's jacket in Back To The Future II, where you push a button, and it automatically adjusts to fit you properly.

This is what the future of lingerie looks like.

Maybe the real solution is to take bras out of the realm of fashion and recruit some engineers.  I bet they'd be more supportive, at least.

Either way, thanks for trying, Jockey, but I think I'm going to stick with traditional sizing until we find something that actually fixes the problem.

Bra Reviews! Bravissimo Satine

The last bra from this batch was Bravissimo's Satine, also in a 30H (UK).

Ooo, shiny.

I initially really liked this one--it's pretty and satiny, and available in four colors--black, white, red, and navy.  I ordered the red one (of course), and, of the this batch it definitely fit the best.  The little button in the middle was also a really cute touch.  Best of all, it's lightly padded for nipple coverage.

Unfortunately, just as I was all set to clip the tags and say, I'm keeping this one, I noticed something really weird.  Like, more weird than the flattened quadraboob torpedo thing the other ones did.   I'm almost not entirely sure how to describe it, but I'm going to try.  I was looking in the mirror and noticed an odd fold towards the bottom on my boob.  I did the necessary gymnastics to get a better look at what was going on down there.  Somehow, my breast was filling out the entire cup, but there was like this fat fold in the cup that doesn't exist in my boobs.  And the cup was full, so it wasn't just a fold in the cloth--the bra literally created a fat fold where one doesn't exist, either on me or in the bra on its own.  I feel confident saying that it was, without a doubt, the strangest fitting problem I have EVER experienced with a bra.  It also made me really sad, because I thought I'd found something that would work.  

Pros:
--affordable
--available in multiple colors
--lightly padded
--flattering cut
--relatively true to size

Cons:
--possibly not designed for human breasts




Bra Reviews! Bravissimo Betsy Bow

Our next review will be a little on the short side, since our next bra fit pretty much the same as the  Alana.  The Betsy Bow bra is another one in an adorable print (which, seriously, how often do we get those in this size range?), and I also ordered it in a 30H (UK).

 
Awwww!

I had that same disappointed feel I had with the last two regarding the fabric--much cheaper than I expected.  Bravissimo clearly has some excellent photographers, because the products look sooo much better in the pictures than in real life.  It had that same annoyingly bizarre fit, so at least the brand is consistent.  I did like the purple accent bows, but, like the last two, it was also unlined (perhaps Bravissimo should work on their descriptions a little bit?).  Overall, disappointing.

Pros:
--affordable
--wide and cheerful color selection (lime green and bright pink, among other colors)

Cons:
--bizarre cup shape
--band runs a little big (a 28 would probably give me sufficient support, but I don't like it enough to try)
--sleazy fabric
minimizes (might be a pro for some)
unlined (might be a pro for some)

Friday, May 31, 2013

Bra Review! Freya Hello Dolly

So, the next bra I tried on in this last batch was Freya's Hello Dolly, which, with it's little bubushkas printed all over it, is absolutely adorable.  I tried it on in a 30H (UK).

 
Hello Dolly! Now with more Russian dolls and less show tunes.

Unfortunately, I found that the fabric itself is not nearly as nice as it looks in the picture--in the photo it looks vaguely cottonish, but it was the same kinda nasty polyester that the Alana was made from.  Still, the print is adorable, even if the fabric wasn't super nice.  It was also unlined (strike two), and, after trying it on, I'm pretty sure that Freya manufactures Bravissimo's house brand.  It fit very much like the Alana, with too much weight going on the shoulders and that same bizarre shape.  Like the other one, it somehow lifted the girls up and in and pushing them down and out at the same time.  I also had a little overspill on the top--not a whole lot, but just enough to be noticeable, especially with the weird profile shape.  Apart from the shape, the cup did fit fairly well, but I would probably need to drop a band size for adequate support.  (seriously, what is up with my body?)


Pros:
--adorable!  If it had been supportive I would have kept it, in spite of the shape.
--average priced (if ordered from a British supplier--I've noticed there tends to be about a $15 difference between domestic pricing and British, which about covers shipping.  Something to keep in mind if you're ordering several at a time.)


Cons:
--bizarre cup shape
--band runs a little big (a 28 would probably give me sufficient support, but I don't like it enough to try)
--sleazy fabric
minimizes (might be a pro for some)
unlined (might be a pro for some)

Tuesday, May 28, 2013

The Bra-dyssey continues! Bravissimo Alana

Well, it's that time again.  After the Ewa Michalaks didn't quite work out, I said to myself, well, maybe the bras I'd been getting were just stretched out and decided to try ordering a new batch in the same 32G size.

No dice--a couple of minutes on and I was already in a world of pain.  So, it's time to start trying some new brands (and new companies--as much as I like Her Room, their selection above G (UK) is pretty depressing).  Unfortunately, there are not a lot of domestic options, so I turned to a British site I'd heard about--Bravissimo.  They stock a fair amount of bras by Freya and Panache, and they also have their own label.  Also worth noting is the fact that they are significantly cheaper on bra styles that are also carried by online retailers stateside (we're talking $45 for a $70 bra).  So, I took a look and put together an order based on a) what looked pretty b) previous bra fit experiences, c) reviews and d) what my husband liked.

Well, that order came in today, and I was disappointed.  First off, three of the four bras I ordered were apparently unlined (I prefer light padding or at least a lining to keep my nipples from poking out).  I still gave them a shot, though, and our next few posts will be detailing my findings.  Unfortunately for me, none of the ones from this order are going to give me the support I need, so they're all going to go back.  I'll let you know how Bravissimo is about returns as soon as I find out.  On a related note, I tried a couple different styles of their house brand, and a Freya--I skipped Panache altogether because they don't appear to make lined/padded bras at all.


Bravissimo Alana


Once again, photo from the site I ordered from (sorry,I try to limit the number of pictures of my boobs on the internet).

According to Bravissimo, this is one of their best sellers.  And, you must admit, it's cute and sexy with its lacy cup.  I measured myself again, and, after seeing a few reviews that suggested it fit similar to Freya, and looking at my notes, I decided to try it in a 30H (UK).  I went with the turquoise you see here because the hubby liked that one the best.

I was disappointed when I discovered it was unlined (I mean, seriously, do other girls nips not poke out when they get cold?).  I know unlined styles tend to be popular among girls my size--the complaint you see with padded bras is always, "Aren't my boobs big enough already?"  I still went ahead and gave it a try, though, because my old bras are putting me in some serious pain.

Surprisingly, it mostly fit (the cups looked really small when I pulled it out of the box).  However, once I had it on for a little while, I could tell the shoulder straps were doing most of the work (OW!) and the cups were shaped really weird.  The hubby said they were torpedo shaped, but I found them to be oddly flat on top, like the bottom of the cup was lifting me up and in and the top of the cup was pushing them down and out--my nipples were getting aimed almost sideways, and I was poking out the top a little.  
Only slight less lumpy, at least on the left.

It was really bizarre.  I've never had a bra push me up and push me down at the same time.  It was not flattering, and made my boobs look smaller.  Some girls like that sort of effect, but I'm okay with my boobs being right out there--it distracts from my belly fat (even for me) and works well as a distraction.  Of course, I don't get the catcalls other girls say they do, either.  My boobs are one of my best physical features--I got 'em, I'd like to flaunt 'em.  Overall, the shape of the cup was just wrong--my tatas aren't shaped like that.

Also worth noting is the fabric is kinda crappy.  I don't have anything against polyester and man made fibers, but the fabric this one was made out of was not the most pleasant.  It looked okay, but....

Definitely not for me.

Pros:
--affordable
--wide and cheerful color selection (lime green and bright pink, among other colors)

Cons:
--bizarre cup shape
--band runs a little big (a 28 would probably give me sufficient support, but I don't like it enough to try)
--sleazy fabric
minimizes (might be a pro for some)
unlined (might be a pro for some)

Monday, May 6, 2013

Jumping on the Ewa Michalak Bandwagon

Bet you thought I wasn't coming back, didncha?  Bwahaha!  Seriously, though, the last batch was pretty much the same brand I've already reviewed a bunch of, so I figured adding in a couple new bras by the same manufacturer that fit like the rest of their bras do would be a bit overkill.  Also, it's been a really busy winter/spring.

Still, that time of year is rolling around again--the time when my boulder holders are wearing out and starting to hurt my shoulders.  I've also noticed lately that the girls keep trying to escape, so a size a adjustment may be needed, too.  God knows why--my weight's held steady.  My best guess is that as I've gone up in the cup, more of my breast tissue is sitting on my chest where it should be instead of getting smooshed around my sides.

Now, the last batch I ordered consisted of Parfait by Affinitas bras in a 32G (Charlotte, Fiona, and Kimberly, if you're curious.  That last one fit a bit tighter than usual for the brand).  Since the girls keep trying to escape, I thought I might try going up a cup size, but, unfortunately, Parfait tops out at a UK G.  I looked at some of the other brands, but they seem to get increasingly expensive and the color selection drops dramatically after G.

So I decided to take the plunge and try a polish designer I've heard good things about--Ewa Michalak.  I only ordered two to start with, because money's a bit tight and if I was going to have to return anything I didn't want to have a whole lot tied up in it.  They have a wide variety of sizes (no seriously, and if they don't have it, they can make it) and styles, and they even have notes about how each style fits (i.e. this one pushes up, this one pushes in, etc.).  The site can be a bit tricky to navigate if you accidentally wander into the polish section, but overall it's pretty easy to find what you're looking for.  I love how they have a variety of models to show you how the bras will look on a real human being--they have a little model, and an average one, and a holy shit those things are huge one.  Also worth noting is that while their size calculator is in metric (25.4 mm to 1 in), the drop down menus to select your size do have the imperial units on them.

I'd heard they ran on the tight side--when you measure for your band with their calculator, you want to measure TIGHT (like, you might want to stop breathing for a minute tight).  I sort guessed at what I needed, and opted for a 32GG (70GG), which was a smaller band than the calculator recommended.

They seem to recommend the plunge style for larger busts, so I decided to order the PL Carmen and the PL Ametyst.  I really liked the sexy/cute look of these two, and the Carmen is being discontinued, so it was also cheaper.

PL Carmen  


PL Ametyst

Now, the chief complaint I've heard from this cut is that you wind up with your boobs under your chin.  Personally, I've never had this problem with a plunge, but then again I like a strong firm support under the girls and don't mind making my fabulous cleavage even more amazing.

Anywho, paypal worked out the exchange between zlotys and USD and with shipping, it came out to about $96--not bad, considering most bras in my size run about $50 ($40 on a really good day) and I shipped it from Poland (Seriously, I've paid more for stuff shipped domestically).  I also found the various status emails written with an eastern European accent delightful (No, really, if not for some ancestors of mine moving stateside, I'd have an eastern European accent, too).

The return policy seems a bit strict--10 days, but I checked and that's from when you receive it, and when it's postmarked, so that's not really that bad (I worried, because it takes longer for international shipping).  I will also say, they shipped relatively quick--a week or so.

And of course, that brings us to today, when they actually arrived.  Fresh out of the box, they looked pretty close to the right size, and they were absolutely gorgeous.  Magically enough, my best guess was just right and they fit remarkably well.  They're soft and comfy, too.  The don't have any side boning, like most of the others you find in this size range, which was an unexpected pleasure (I've found that as my previous bras wear, the boning beings to poke me in a most unpleasant manner).  Now, I will say, once I got the girls situated, I did have the," Damn those things are huge," moment when I looked down, but well, they are, and it was nice to see them held up the way they should be.

The Carmen has removable pads (most Ewa Michalak bras do, so you can correct for asymmetry), but it fits well with them in there, and well, I don't really care.  It'd be a good selling point for girls who are between cup sizes or asymmetrical.  The Ametyst actually provides even more lift--the most amazing thing is the effortless way the bras seem to accomplish that, too.  Also, while they're made with the traditional powernet in the back, they don't seem as stretchy as other bras I've seen, which should improve how they wear.  Ask me if they still feel good in six months.

All in all, I'm glad I finally took the plunge and placed an order with them, and I look forward to ordering more from this company.



UPDATE 5-14-13:

Having gone all day with each bra, they don't give quite as much support as I'd expected, and I found the straps to be a bit on the short side.  I suspect if I went down to a 30 in the band I'd get better support, but I don't think the straps would be long enough.  I'll still wear them, but I don't think now is the time for this brand for me.  I think I'm going to go back with Parfait--I feel like I could get a better fit, but the size I'd have to go with (depending on brand I'd probably need around a 30H, since Parfait runs small in the band), the alternatives are ugly and/or really expensive.  My 32G's from Parfait are good enough for now, and at this point I just want my shoulders to stop hurting so much.  I know new bras that aren't all stretched out should give me the support I need.